stared 4 days ago

I would argue that e-readers are cheap. My Kindle has been the single most value-per-dollar device purchase in my life.

Nine years ago, I bought a Kindle Paperwhite 3 for $259.49. It still works. It still does just one job—and does it really well. Unlike many other devices, I'm not tempted (or pushed) to get a new one every few years.

Apart from reading books, I send longer articles (using https://www.pushtokindle.com/) to read on eink, in a distraction-free, eye-friendly mode.

However, what does bother me is that eink displays are expensive in general. I had considered getting a few for my home, for dashboards (e.g., my quantified self health stats) and my favorite web strips. But these are really expensive. And, in this scenario, I'd ideally want to have more than just one display.

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thaumasiotes 4 days ago

> My Kindle has been the single most value-per-dollar device purchase in my life.

I had an old Kindle with a keyboard, which I got with the official jacket-and-booklight accessory.

It was great. One day years later I let it update and it got a lot worse.

I also got a Kindle Oasis. There is no booklight option. You're supposed to use the built-in frontlighting, which is so bad that I never use the device at all.

casenmgreen 4 days ago

How much data collection do Kindles perform?

delecti 4 days ago

I can't answer that question exhaustively, but they do have a USB drive mode* and airplane mode, if that's something you care about.

Though the models with ads (basically all of them) do track impressions of all the ad placements around the device, which includes the lockscreen (the display shows ads when it's in sleep mode, both before and after you press the power button), and a banner on the home page.

* - Amazon removed the ability to download books from them to put on your Kindle, but the new ones do still have a USB drive mode

jay_kyburz 4 days ago

I switched to Kobo when the cable to my Kindle failed and I found out it was proprietary.

I also wanted to switch to epub format.

delecti 3 days ago

Worth noting that only the first Kindle, released in 2007, used a proprietary charger, and plenty of devices used proprietary chargers at the time. All of them since have had USB charging.

jay_kyburz 3 days ago

I don't think that's true, I had several kindles and it was a paper white that looked like it was micro USB, and charged fine on an alternate cable, but would not do direct USB connection on anything but the kindles own cable.

delecti 2 days ago

I'm pretty sure that that's incorrect. I worked at Amazon, on Kindles, and we used retail units with whatever random USB cables we could scrounge up, on all of the various Kindles (fire and eink). I also can't find anything on google mentioning it, and just tested with my own (non-Amazon) cable on my own retail paperwhite from 2015.

You may have just had a cable without functioning data lines.

ornornor 4 days ago

AFAIK Amazon tracks every single metric they can as a policy. For kindles it’s books you’ve read, how much, when, words you’ve looked up in the dictionary, where you’ve connected from…

abdullahkhalids 4 days ago

For this and other reasons, I have never connected my Kindle to the internet [1]. So it can collect away. It will never be able to transmit the data.

[1] after the very first time when setting up the account

beAbU 4 days ago

What types of data is available to collect from a Kindle, assuming of course the device is used for nothing but reading ebooks?

esseph 4 days ago

IP address and location as you move from place to place (LTE/wifi).

Reading habits and library

Political leanings

Other associated metadata that may do more to link that device to your overall advertising profile and help deanonymize you for other data brokers.

squigz 4 days ago

Another commenter lists a few options, but even the most basic of data - what a person chooses to read - is personal and private enough to warrant caring about.

beAbU 4 days ago

Is this not already available from your shopping data?

squigz 4 days ago

Assuming you buy all your books from Amazon, sure.