TZubiri 2 days ago

It's not a PR statement, it's a change in price. Literally putting money where the mouth is.

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theappsecguy 2 days ago

Or they are trying to gobble up market share because Anthropic has been much better than OpenAI

petesergeant 2 days ago

Providers are exceptionally easy to switch. There's no moat for enterprise-level usage. There's no "market share" to gobble up because I can change a line in my config, run the eval suite, and switch immediately to another provider.

This is marginally less true for embedding models and things you've fine-tuned, but only marginally.

Davidzheng 2 days ago

o3 probably used to have a HUGE profit margin on inference, so I'd say it's unclear how much optimo was done;

programjames 2 days ago

I find it pretty plausible they got an 80% speedup just by making optimized kernels for everything. Even when GPUs say they're being 100% utilized, there are so many improvements to be made, like:

- Carefully interleaving shared memory loading with computation, and the whole kernel with global memory loading.

- Warp shuffling for softmax.

- Avoiding memory access conflicts in matrix multiplication.

I'm sure the guys at ClosedAI have many more optimizations they've implemented ;). They're probably eventually going to design their own chips or use photonic chips for lower energy costs, but there's still a lot of gains to be made in the software.

Davidzheng 2 days ago

yes I agree that it is very plausible. But it's just unclear whether it is more of a business decision or a real downstream effect of engineering optimizations (which I assume are happening everyday at OA)