jandrese 3 days ago

So now every engineer has to record how many hours each day were spent doing "software development" vs. "software maintenance"/"overhead"/"etc..."?

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Muromec 2 days ago

You just add a row to spreadsheet at the end of the month. 30% maintenance, 70% development or whatever

RajT88 2 days ago

My last company required timesheets to be submitted daily.

mikepurvis 2 days ago

This is common in Canada for companies claiming SR&ED credits: https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-agency/services/scientific-...

jchanimal 2 days ago

The word “just” in your comment disgusts me

Dylan16807 2 days ago

Why?

They're suggesting you spend a minute or two per month thinking about it, not meticulous tracking.

That might not be practical, but what they are describing is a perfectly good use of the word "just".

NoMoreNicksLeft 2 days ago

A minute or two (or even 10 minutes) per month is basically just guessing/bullshitting. Anything that is accurate rather than imagination requires more overhead than this. Likely anything even remotely accurate requires the sort of micromanagement software that lawyers use to track billable hours, requires desktop-surveillance, and meeting minutes-dissection after-the-fact. Not sure how they will decide to rate reddit doomscrolling when tax season rolls around either, which if we're honest, is some significant fraction of our in-office hours (hell, strangely, some of that time is when I figure out the tricky stuff).

So no, "just" is hardly fair.

Muromec 1 day ago

Government wants a number -- they get a number. How I get to the number is precise enough in my opinion and you are free to disagree with my methodology.

When I was doing it, I worked in an actual startup and granularity of time allocation was in weeks. This week I was doing the thing, the other I was mostly doing bugfixes/refactorings etc.

You could do more precise and account with hour or minute granularity with tools if you have to

Dylan16807 2 days ago

> A minute or two (or even 10 minutes) per month is basically just guessing/bullshitting.

Correct, they are suggesting basically just guessing.

Which is why "just" is correct for their suggestion.

It's not a good suggestion but it really is that easy to implement.

joquarky 2 days ago

In my experience, at least contractors at a major ISP have to.