dunkeltaenzer 2 days ago

Bookmarked it for later full reading. I'm venturing into the same realm from a different perspective these days. The shift to centralisation, away from those decentralized ways, was pretty much the purpose of the witch-hunts and Inquisition era. Those old societies all revolved around the idea of having druids, shamans, witches or other cosmic bridge roles in their tribal structures. Those people have a simple role and responsibility. Observing and guiding the tribal balance and wellbeing. Based on the idea of enabling and balancing the members of the tribe into sovereign beings, who all serve their tribe and each other. That's why kings weren't rulers. They were servants of their subjects.

The Roman Path of Life, was an offspring of Egypt. Egypt had created karmic entanglements around the concept of rulers abusing their power to serve themselves, by demanding their subjects to serve THEM and not their tribe. On top, the women in Egypt failed themselves. Society had developed towards wisdom and understanding, while warriors got still trained into brutal men (Ladies, the creation of a knighthood, to elevate your warriors frequency would have solved that). Women didn't enjoy sharing beds with those guys, so they started to refuse and ridicule them, dropping the frequency even more, instead of elevating it. Ended in a historically documented break, where those guys started raping women in general and Isis priestesses in special. They got exiled by the Pharaoh and culture branched into different karmic playgrounds.

If you have a look at the development of cultural archetypes, stored in myths, legends and religions of the cultures after that, you can see how that karmic energy evolved as cultural trauma. In Babylon the exiled God of Egypt started to get turned into a warmongering tyrant and rapist on the male side and women turned into birth machines and property of men, while taking up a role as manipulative, scheming creatures, lurking in the shadows to plot on how to make their men's lives miserable. And then we spin everything into stories that romanticise that BS, because otherwise it would require introspection to find healthier ways.

The final iteration of that development is Christianity, where we have a tyrant father (Yahweh defeats El somewhere in the bible and "inherits his titles and blah". That's Yahweh becoming the last offspring of that exiled God, unmasking him for the curious folks as a distorted service to self entity in plain sight.), the mother has become a holy ghost, because she's to embarrassed to be mentioned, the daughter exists as Schrödinger's virgin or as a whore and the oldest son who left the family (Jesus isn't connected to Yahweh in any way, except for Christianity's choice to glue his stories to theirs, so bible is 50-50 service to self/others and doesn't implode after some centuries, like the previous iterations without "balance through a good guy".) chose to lead a good and honest life, got nailed to a cross for it and people kept following the guy who swung the hammer.

Humans are amazingly ridiculous. But the good news is, since we don't know what we do, some have conserved that old wisdom in dances and songs, that the people still remember without understanding their memory, so that someone like me can come and reconnect humans to their memories of ways that worked amazingly well. They just didn't give someone power over other's, so people building pyramids of human power didn't like those ideas and tried to bury them, by killing everyone who spreads those ways.

Good thing they forgot in their hubris, that someone else had GIVEN them that power in the first place. And that guy understood the nature of that power, while they only understood the ceremonies, songs and dances, they were taught. And he promised to come back and clean the mess up, after giving Humans ample time to explore the consequences of their choices. So he did as promised. Because he always had.

Life is an amazing quantum-stabilised playground to explore possibilities. Before we can explore them truly, we have to learn about our own possibilities and how our choices and actions shape the world.

Having a Mother close her eyes to the reality in front of her, because her role would include being balance and justice, can create millennia of mothers creating completely unbalanced and unjust societies and come out on the other side, rejecting all responsibility for all of their choices and summing up their problems as "It's all men".

Isn't that the pinnacle of divine comedy, we have been promised?

But on a serious note, if you need bridges to connect ideas and thoughts around the topic of free human societies, hmu. They call my kind a bridge builder for a reason. The Pontifex Maximus has forgotten that honour and duty, but Saint Peter was awake enough to notice that comedy, when he received his old key back last month, to hand it to the next bridge builder. Took me a month to figure out where that amazing key came from, that unlocked an old Seal on Saturn and triggered the rollback of all that karmic BS, so it becomes more easy to spot it. For everyone. God always had a knack for "Power to the People". It was just People, who chose, they deserve more power than others with the intent of abusing that power to gain control over those others. That way can work too. But it's super volatile and in most cases simply ends up in planets getting blown up by people who need violence to find out, who is stronger, while the answer to their question is hidden in the an saying.

Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent

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hosh 2 days ago

Hacker News is not really the venue for this.

I'll just say this based on what I think is your thesis here:

"Those old societies all revolved around the idea of having druids, shamans, witches or other cosmic bridge roles in their tribal structures."

- Shamans originated out among the Mongolian and Manchu people, and not the universal role that anthropologists like to make it out to be. While their role does include being a cosmic bridge, they do have practices working with wrathful spirits that they send to kill their enemies.

- "Aradia, or the Gospel of Witches" may or may not be a reliable source, but it does present an idea of witchraft and its purpose that makes the most sense to me: a remnant of a role that then evolved as a way to fight against patriarchial tyranny and oppression.

"Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent"

I don't think it is that simple.

I couldn't find your contact info on your profile, and there's a lot more to engage. Feel free to email me sometime.