Funny, because the traditional role of a women is exactly to be the one who hears all these hard things and helps the man overcome them.
Extra funny hat women should be excluded so men can talk about feeling lonely and how they wish they had a woman.
It only takes one time: a woman who sees a man as less than for admitting his weakness makes him never talk about that stuff around women again.
Unfortunately, there are many women who react this way, so the cycle continues. I don't necessarily blame women for this, it's more about the social expectations for men, the moment they violate that expectation and are "punished" for it, they follow it to the letter, because they then know what happens if they don't.
find different women. Obviously many woman would have similar social expectations due to the way things have shook out.
Phew, I have very rarely heard something so wrong. Women are absolutely not traditionally an emotional support for men. In fact, being vulnerable in that way as a man is just about the surest way to make most women suddenly quite uninterested. Every woman has a story where some important man cries in front of her for the only time. In his entire life.
Women want men to be emotionally open as it applies to supporting them. There's nothing inherently wrong with that, but let's call a spade a spade.
Wish they'd taught me this when I was young. They told me being open and vulnerable was attractive.
They also told me I had to verbally ask girls if it was okay to kiss them and if they didn't verbally say yes I was assaulting them.
Intimacy has not been absent from my life, but it has had a very small role.
That may be the traditional role of a wife, though even in marriage a man who dumps all his fears and worries on his wife will soon find himself without one. Women want a man to open up and share his feelings, but in practice a little of that goes a long way.
But in any case, it's not the traditional role of whatever women happen to be in earshot.
It’s not complicated. Men need women. But men need men, too. The needs are distinct and not interchangeable.
Fine, but why do you list two needs with enormous female gendered baggage in that case?