What I find a bit remarkable is how they lost control of their club dynamics so severely. I've been a regular attendee of a few hacker spaces that were open to the public but never had the problem they describe.
I think maybe a key aspect is ensuring that all men, particular the ones that are classically unattractive (even repulsive) feel welcome as valued equals. Many women cannot countenance this and will try to shape group membership to be more agreeable; those women are free to leave. The rest are welcome to stay and at that point there shouldn't be any issues.
(Of course it goes without saying that actual harassment isn't tolerated, but being a smelly fat slob with a heart of gold doesn't count.)
This is a hilarious take.
Men must be welcome as an absolute, women must conform to your expectations or be excluded.
If a woman cannot tolerate the presence of unattractive men in a club meant for socially excluded men, then she doesn't belong in that club.
> absolute
As I said, harassment shouldn't be tolerated. Men who do that should be kicked out.
Uh, they don't describe any problem though? The piece is about how everyone agrees the change is for the better, its only people in this thread that describe women and men woodworking together as a problem.
Obviously the remaining members think it’s better but as an adverse selection problem you can’t ask the ones that left
The notion that any members left is your own invention.
From a Reddit discussion about the same article:
> I spoke with some men at the Man Shed in Edinburgh at Christmas and they mentioned that in the cases they had heard about where women had been let in the number of male members dropped.
— https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/1k6w3pr/we_p...
Aside from that, just take a look at what happened. When women joined, the men responded by finding a men-only room to “escape” to. It’s hardly a great leap to think that some of those men will escape someplace else instead.
Oh, rumours from a completely different place are to be taken as facts for this group? Very level headed analysis you got there.
Besides, as is abundantly clear from the program, they "escape" in there to have a "quiet chat" because the band saw in the big room is fucking loud.