bigstrat2003 7 days ago

> Perhaps you remember that language models were completely useless at coding some years ago, and now they can do quite a lot of things, even if they are not perfect.

IMO, they're still useless today, with the only progress being that they can produce a more convincing facade of usefulness. I wouldn't call that very meaningful progress.

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wvenable 7 days ago

I don't know how someone can legitimately say that they're useless. Perfect, no. But useless, also no.

addaon 7 days ago

> I don't know how someone can legitimately say that they're useless.

Clearly, statistical models trained on this HN thread would output that sequence of tokens with high probability. Are you suggesting that a statement being probable in a text corpus is not a legitimate source of truth? Can you generalize that a little bit?

wvenable 7 days ago

Who said anything about truth? We're talking about usefulness.

drdeca 7 days ago

I’ve found them somewhat useful? Not for big things, and not for code for work.

But for small personal projects? Yes, helpful.

conradkay 7 days ago

It's funny how there's a decent % of people at both "LLMs are useless" and "LLMs 3-10x my productivity"

otabdeveloper4 7 days ago

> LLMs 3-10x my productivity

x10 of zero is still zero, I guess.

IshKebab 7 days ago

They are very clearly not useless. You haven't given them a fair shake.