BuyMyBitcoins 5 days ago

During high school the consensus from our English teachers was “we know these things are hard to use properly. We’ll teach you how to do it, but it is usually better just to rewrite what you are trying to say using two sentences and avoid them.”

That being said, we were also advised to “use at most one semicolon in the writing section of the SAT. Proper usage will help your score. But, you better make sure you’ve used it correctly.”

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wrboyce 5 days ago

I love a good semicolon, and it tickled me that your quote could be rewritten to include one.

> We know these things are hard to use properly; we’ll teach you how to do it, but it is usually better just to rewrite what you are trying to say using two sentences and avoid them.

Although it does make the sentence a bit long and unwieldy.

EDIT: hah, so can your second quote!

> Proper usage will help your score; you’d better make sure you’ve used it correctly.

But in that instance I think the dropped “but” is more important.

EDIT2: even better…

> Use at most one semicolon in the writing section of the SAT; proper usage will help your score. But you’d better make sure you’ve used it correctly.

georgyo 5 days ago

Did you just start a sentence with "But"!?!? My 7th grade english teacher is not happy with you!

(I know there is nothing wrong with it, but some teachers really dislike it)

Lyngbakr 5 days ago

And don't even think about starting a sentence with 'and'.

I think we're taught rules like this to prevent us developing bad habits at the outset. Then, once we have more experience, we know when it's okay to break the rules.

scubbo 5 days ago

One of my partners' favourite schooltime memories is of a teacher boldly proclaiming:

> "Me" can never be the first word of a sentence

kevin_thibedeau 5 days ago

It's academics trying to make English follow Latin grammar.

brudgers 5 days ago

What is easy to grade is what gets graded.

AStonesThrow 5 days ago

Want to know something crazy? In Greek, the question mark looks like a semicolon

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Of course, all punctuation is an invention of comparatively modern typography.

In the Greek New Testament, many sentences and paragraphs begin with "Kai" which means "And". In English, discouraged just as much as "But".

I tend to type breathlessly, as if speaking; I've done a lot of time in chat rooms. These days, when I'm composing a message, I'll rewind to proofread it, insert commas and semicolons, and break up sentences and paragraphs.

I believe what really drove home the importance of punctuation was singing from sheet music and watching the director. Now there's a job where timing is everything, and it was eventually revealed that a comma (or semicolon) in the lyric text implied a pause in the sung phrase as well. You could take a breath at a comma. In fact, there's a sheet music breath mark that's like a comma above the staff line.

What's more, when a poem or lyrics are presented line-by-line, at the end of a line where there is no punctuation, this does not necessarily mean you can pause or take a breath, because poetry is divided by meter, not by sentence structure. So, when singing with your favorite band, or reciting your favorite poetry slam, try not to insert semicolons where they don't belong!

BuyMyBitcoins 5 days ago

> EDIT: hah, so can your second quote!

;)

Even the wink emoticon includes a semicolon.

Spooky23 5 days ago

When I worked in a job that required a civil service test. One of the keys to the best scores was being able to wield the semi-colon.

In always wondered what affect if any that had in the leadership of that organization.

mmooss 5 days ago

Maybe it demonstrates your ability to understand even simple concepts and execute on them under pressure.

Spooky23 4 days ago

They struggled with civil rights lawsuits because the previous versions were correlated with IQ, which was deemed problematic in the courts. So they transitioned to grammar and other stuff that mapped to objective facts.

Pretty sure now they use documentation of education and experience in most cases.

tptacek 4 days ago

This is mostly an Internet legend; IQ tests in employment are broadly fine, and lots of huge companies with lots to lose in employment litigation use them, openly and proudly. They're not more widely used because they're not very effective.

brudgers 5 days ago

High school is pretty early to cast one’s literary style in stone.