fn-mote 6 days ago

> rather than giving them the flexibility they deserve as grown adults

I have had so many very frustrating conversations with full grown adults in charge of teaching CS. I have no faith at all that students would be able to choose an appropriate method of study.

My issue with the instruction is the very narrow belief in the importance of certain measurable skills. VERY narrow. I won’t go into details, for my own sanity.

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carlosjobim 6 days ago

> I have no faith at all that students would be able to choose an appropriate method of study.

That is their problem, not your problem. You're not their nanny.

lolinder 6 days ago

Exactly. Turning tertiary education into a third tier of babysitting just screws over the adults who actually grew up during secondary school. Tell them how to succeed in your class and then let them fail if they won't listen to you! It's high time someone let these kids grow up.

RobinL 6 days ago

When hiring, I would very much like to hire people who have figured out how to learn things for themselves using whatever techniques work for them, and don't need nannying.

So I'm perfectly happy with a system of higher education that strongly rewards this behaviour

jay_kyburz 6 days ago

I'm sure this will be an unpopular opinion, but just like junior employees, I think university students should clock in at 9am and finish working at 5pm.

I think they would really benefit learning how to work a full day and develop some work life balance.

_-_-__-_-_- 6 days ago

I actually like this idea in theory. Except, it wouldn't allow for students to find flexible part-time work.

As an example, I was a university student in Canada ~15 years ago. I lived with my parents, driving 30 minutes each way to attend classes. I had car insurance, gas, a cell phone, tuition, parking and books to pay. Tuition was costing 6000$ a year over 5 years. Being in humanities, I chose my own course schedule. I would often have classes 8 a.m. to 2 p.m. Monday through Thursday. I would work nights and weekends 25-33.5 hours most weeks..Most part-time employment worked around student hours and allowed some flexibility. Once I graduated and had a full-time salary position, I had much more free time and struggled to not feel lonely in filling up that time.