fallinditch 7 days ago

You may want to consider a rebrand before you get too far.

Add Nomi to the HN search box. Presumably you're not the same Nomi whose chat bot advised a user to kill themself?

Then there's another Nomi that "tracked customers' phones' MAC addresses through stores without in-store opt-out."

But good luck with your startup, it sounds like an excellent idea, I'm interested and will certainly check it out.

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cardine 6 days ago

Founder/CEO of Nomi here. The story in question was someone who intentionally jailbroke our LLM for a misleading news story. The same things done in that article can be done for ChatGPT, Gemini, etc. and since the article was published we have hardened our defenses against malicious users like that.

Past the manufactured drama, our Nomi has literally saved people's lives - I have talked personally to hundreds of users who have directly told me that their Nomi saved their life, encouraged them to go to therapy, realize they are someone worthy of being loved, and a multitude of other real benefits.

With that being said I wish the OP best of luck with his startup and implore him to switch names so that there is no opportunity for confusion between the two products.

swanYC 7 days ago

Have you tried to type nomi on google ? Check the first result. Ahah moment guaranteed.

We should probably fully rebrand as heynomi indeed.

skrebbel 7 days ago

A Korean restaurant?

DonHopkins 6 days ago

Hello from Amsterdam! ;)

growthwtf 7 days ago

First result is the AI bf/gf app for me... I don't get it personally. Are you the same company and this you pivoting?

leonheld 7 days ago

I get nomi.ai, which is a service to:

"... build a meaningful friendship, develop a passionate relationship, or learn from an insightful mentor."

Jesus Christ.

dang 6 days ago

As a card-carrying member of his fan club I must mention the great, and tragically departed, Klaus Nomi:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%22klaus+nomi%2...

DonHopkins 6 days ago

I've got that card in my wallet too, alongside my Leigh Bowery Fan Club Card and Nina Hagen Fan Club Card!

Let's hope lightning strikes again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJdljxrvPqo

Here's "The Nomi Song" documentary of his amazing and tragically short life:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0PszBID3Lk

It covers the story behind his epic SNL performance with Joey Arias and David Bowie:

https://youtu.be/W0PszBID3Lk?t=2038

"So, to get ready for Saturday Night Live, he said to Bowie, 'Well so what are you doing, what's going to happen? Are you doing a staging, or are you doing costumes? What are you doing?'"

"And he said, 'Yeah, and they're making me this copy of a Tristan Tzara design from some performance art thing from the 30's.' So we look at this thing, and it's, it's beautiful."

https://lemodalogue.com/2017/07/31/histoire-dun-costume-dada...

Page Wood, Nomi's Art Director:

"I remember Pat Gibbons, who was Bowie's manager at the time. He comes up and he goes, 'Well you're going to have to have something. You're going to have some costumes.'"

"And he whips out a big wad of cash, and he goes, 'How much do you need?', and he starts peeling off bills. And Joey and Klaus look at him, and their eyes widen, and they look at each other, and they go, 'We're going to need shoes, too.'"

One of my favorite performances of all time, The Man Who Sold The World lyric "We must have died alone, a long long time ago." was especially poignant given Nomi's sad fate.

At 1:42 in this video, just after that tragic lyric, Blondie's keyboardist Jimmy Destri stares gothically up into the camera.

https://donhopkins.com/home/nomi/DavidBowieAndKlausNomi-TheM...

Then they did "TVC15":

https://www.davidbowieworld.nl/david-bowie-tvc-15/

>[TVC15] was inspired by an episode in which Iggy Pop, during a drug-fueled period at Bowie’s LA home, hallucinated and believed the television set was swallowing his girlfriend. Bowie developed a story of a holographic television, TVC 15. In the song, the narrator’s girlfriend crawls into the television and afterwards, the narrator desires to crawl in himself to find her.

https://donhopkins.com/home/nomi/DavidBowieAndKlausNomi-TVC1...

Finally right the end of the live performance of "Boys Keep Swinging", Bowie pulled one over on the censors by whipping out his puppet penis on live TV, and then grinning impishly!

https://donhopkins.com/home/nomi/DavidBowieAndKlausNomi-Boys...

The night David Bowie brought a nude puppet to SNL:

https://www.avclub.com/read-this-the-night-david-bowie-broug...

echelon 6 days ago

> You may want to consider a rebrand before you get too far.

Who the heck cares or even knows about the other Nomi? It doesn't matter and nobody will make that connection.

Keep the app name. It's great.

The only time to rebrand your product is when it's named cock roach, gimp (a sexual and ableist slur), or FTX.

swanYC 6 days ago

Thoughtful feedback and thanks for the name appreciation! We'll make sure to keep that rule in mind.

DonHopkins 6 days ago

Just don't call it "Nomad", that would be a terrible name for an AI company!

I had almost this exact same conversation with Cursor about analyzing an error, when it tried to sterilize my faulty source code:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIpsvF50yps

More unsolicited advice on company names and logos:

It's probably not a good idea to repeat the mistake of calling your web site "expertsExchange.com" in this current political environment.

And just because Slack got away with a penis swastika logo, it's played out, and you don't want to bait Elon Musk into endorsing your company with one of his famous heart-goes-out Roman friendship salutes.