> There's two kinds of emergence, one scientific
I am not aware of any scientific kind of emergence. There's philosophical emergence, and its counterpoint - ontological reductionism.
Most people have an intuitive sense that philosophical emergence is true, and that bubbles up in their writing, taken as an axiom that we're all supposed to go along with.
On closer inspection, it is not clear to me that this isn't simply a confusion or illusion caused by the tendency of the human mind to apply abstractions and socially constructed categories on top of complicated phenomena, and those abstractions are confused for actual effects that are different from the underlying base-level phenomena being described.
It is ontological emergence vs epistemological emergence, not philosophical vs ontological. Simply, ontic vs epistemic.