HDThoreaun 5 days ago

Tons of people fall for this too. Are they not reasoning? LLMs can also be bad reasoning machines.

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petermcneeley 5 days ago

I dont have much use for a bad reasoning machine.

the8472 5 days ago

I could retort with another gotcha argument, but instead of doing that perhaps we can do better than that?

An attempt: They are bad reasoning machines that already are useful in a few domains and they're improving faster than evolutionary speeds. So even if they're not useful today in a domain relevant to you there's a significant possibility they might be in a few months. AlphaEvolve would have been scifi a decade ago.

"It's like if a squirrel started playing chess and instead of "holy shit this squirrel can play chess!" most people responded with "But his elo rating sucks""

HDThoreaun 5 days ago

I can think of tons of uses for a bad reasoning machine as long as it’s cheap enough.

guappa 4 days ago

Which those things aren't. In fact they cost considerably more than hiring someone.

HDThoreaun 4 days ago

LLMs cost significantly less than even a high schooler

guappa 3 days ago

Just because for now they are burning money and it's priced considerably under what it's costing them.

Which is why I spoke of "cost" not of "price".

They're in the "disrupt" phase. But that's not forever.

HDThoreaun 2 days ago

No. The marginal cost of an LLM is much, much lower than a high schooler. It is not even close. There is a lot of investment happening but revenue will continue to increase as the product improves and more use it or the money will stop flowing. If training stopped LLMs would be immensely profitable right now