magicalhippo 16 days ago

They already have the SQL Server Management Studio[1], which seems to cover similar ground?

I'm assuming they might want to move SSMS to VSCode in time, so trying it out by covering new ground, PostgreSQL, makes sense to me.

[1]: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/ssms/sql-server-management...

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AdrianB1 16 days ago

No, it has a different purpose; VS Code extension and the former ADS are targeted for development, while SSMS is for server and database administration. I am a heavy user of SSMS and can do everything I ever need there, I don't use the VS Code extension for MS SQL even if I have it installed and I use VS Code quite a lot. This is because I am also acting as a backup and supervisor for our DBA team, so I am involved in DBA work.

codeulike 16 days ago

SSMS is also for Development, I've been using it for that for 20 years

pjmlp 16 days ago

Same here, much better than the VS tooling for SQL Server, including all the Transact-SQL support.

petepete 16 days ago

I still miss the tool it replaced, SQL Query Analyzer/Profiler. To this day it's my favourite SQL 'IDE'.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/archive/msdn-magazine/2005...

tomnipotent 16 days ago

Those features/tools are still part of SSMS today.

petepete 16 days ago

Yeah, it's specifically the old applications I miss.

They were really well designed, incredibly snappy and responsive. When SSMS was launched it was really slow and clunky on my computer.

I switched to Postgres around that time so I'm 20 years out of touch at this point.

codeulike 15 days ago

I had forgotten about query analyzer, didn't it exist alongside ssms? I think I used to roll it out when things got really serious

petepete 13 days ago

Query Analyzer was eventually superseded by SSMS but there was an overlap period IIRC.

AdrianB1 16 days ago

I just said what Microsoft is targeting the tools for, not how they can be used.

dehugger 16 days ago

I agree, I work on an application with a lot of business logic in SQL and SSMS ends up being my primary development IDE because of that.

croblesm 9 days ago

Lead PM for SQL in VS Code here. I’m glad to hear SSMS is working well for you! I’d love to better understand why VS Code doesn’t meet your needs in the same way.

We’re actively working to improve the experience, and learning what works for you in SSMS would be incredibly valuable.

robertlagrant 16 days ago

Yes, it's good!

cerved 16 days ago

SSMS is what my nightmares are made of

pier25 16 days ago

But it's only for Windows

magicalhippo 16 days ago

In my experience, MSSQL shops are far more likely to be using Windows already than PGSQL shops, so that's just yet another reason for why PGSQL was a good first choice for a VSCode plugin IMHO.