Sharlin 1 day ago

The mechanics don't have to be similar, only analogous, in the morphology sense.

1
foldr 1 day ago

'Analogous in the morphology sense' is actually a more specific concept than 'similar'. But either way, we still don't know if they're analogous, or similar, or whatever term you prefer.

Anyone who actually understands both LLMs and the human brain well enough to make confident claims that they basically work the same really ought to put in the effort to write up a paper and get a Nobel prize or two.

Sharlin 1 day ago

Analogous in the morphology sense means having come up with an entirely distinct solution to a common problem. Insect and bird wings have little to do with each other except that both flap to create lift. It explicitly does not imply the solutions are similar in mechanism, although that can be, and often is, a result of convergent evolution, of course.

In particular, generally speaking (not claiming that LLMs a road to AGI, which is something I doubt) it's generally not a well-defensible philosophical position that the vertebrate brain (and remember that mammalian, bird and cephalopod brains are very different) is uniquely suited to produce what we call "intelligence".

> Anyone who actually understands both LLMs and the human brain well enough to make confident claims that they basically work the same

This is a strawman and not my position.

foldr 1 day ago

It was a characterization of the position of the post I was originally responding to, not your position.

I don’t think anyone in this discussion has claimed that brains are uniquely suited to producing intelligence. The point was just that we have no idea if there is any interesting correspondence between how LLMs work and how brains work, beyond superficial and obvious analogies.