wanderer2323 2 days ago

You have also developed a device that allows people to use AirTags for stalking.

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_QrE 2 days ago

This. Normal AirTags are just fine for tracking your stuff.

> "(thiefs use apps to locate AirTags around, and AirTags will warn the thief if an unknown AirTag is travelling with them, for example if they steal your car)"

The reason this was introduced is exactly because people used AirTags to stalk others. Advertising that your product turns that off is basically targeting that specific demographic.

Ajedi32 2 days ago

That's true. But the advertised use case (tracking stolen items) is perfectly valid.

thebruce87m 2 days ago

> The reason this was introduced is exactly because people used AirTags to stalk others.

There were anti-stalking features from the start. It didn’t stop the media hysteria however.

pompidoo 2 days ago

As it's 4 hours off / 1 hour on, the device is not very suitable for stalking someone. Also once the AirTag is back on and the person starts moving, they will be alerted that the AirTag is tracking them.

schmichael 1 day ago

That’s perfect for finding out where someone lives. Drop it in their bag or jacket at a concert/bar/work/whatever-in-the-evening, and the place they’re likely at in 4 hours is their home.

Not trying to be creepy, I’m just trying to demonstrate how we all need to think like adversaries (eg creeps) when designing products.

fn-mote 1 day ago

You can probably find out where they live from knowing their name. This application is not a high level of stalking.

schmichael 1 day ago

The concert/bar example allows stalking without knowing someone’s name.

andygeorge 1 day ago

> not a high level of stalking

imo no level of stalking is appropriate. while this device might not do everything a stalker wants it to, it surely makes it easier for them

hangonhn 1 day ago

That's not true in all scenarios.

I once donated an infant car seat to a coworker but forgot I had put an AirTag on it. After she had taken it home, her iPhone told there was an unknown AirTag and she texted me. I apologized profusely and she wasn't bothered by it. Nonetheless had I been nefarious, I would have been able to get her home address.

cryptonector 1 day ago

AirTags are already that. There's videos on YouTube on how to disconnect the speaker that allows AirTags to warn the stalking victim.