realitysballs 2 days ago

10 minute standup , woof

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malfist 2 days ago

That's exactly how I run my standups.

Everyone answers 3 questions:

* Do I need something?

* What is my _top_ priority for the day?

* Am I blocked?

The answers for the first and third question should always be "No" because you should have raised them before standup, but it's a relief valve if you didn't.

What is your top priority should be short and focused. If you let people talk about what they did or didn't do yesterday it becomes a slog with people justifying their progress or non-progress. Ultimately it doesn't matter. Focusing on the top priority he's focus people on their main task for the day.

n4r9 2 days ago

> What is my _top_ priority for the day?

How do you manage (if you have to) more research-heavy/blue-sky tasks that may take a few days or weeks without linear daily progress? Like, some days may just involve doing some sketches and playing around with code in order to internalise some data structure. Does that person just say "I'm continuing with task X" several days in a row?

mrguyorama 2 days ago

>Does that person just say "I'm continuing with task X" several days in a row?

Absolutely. If other devs or even a manager or project lead or someone feel they've been doing the "same" task too long, they should be reaching out and checking in. "Hey, running into any problems? How are you doing?"

malfist 1 day ago

Absolutely, you can be more specific about the specific aspect if you want, but it's mainly a forcing tool for focus and not an accountability tool. Although everyone thinks it's accountability

frabcus 2 days ago

"My top priority today is to internalise data structure B"

OrderlyTiamat 2 days ago

My team has 15min standups, in holiday times we regularly stop after 10min. Very focussed on the sprint goal and getting each other unstuck- it's great. Much better than the "let's walk over every issue on the jira board and argue about technical implementations".

carefulfungi 2 days ago

The first standup experience of my career predates “agile” and was run by my first engineering manager, who happened to be an ex-marine. QA was unhappy with the product. (There was QA!) 10m standups were instituted at 8:45a in the QA workspace. Great process hacking: QA could interject and also hear first hand orientation. Everyone started their day knowing the plan. (And everyone started their day at the same time.) Fun to reflect on how much has changed.

nottorp 2 days ago

> and getting each other unstuck

Let me guess, there is no group text chat where people can randomly whine and get unstuck by whoever notices and is an expert on the problem?

SoftTalker 2 days ago

This is the thing I dislike most about chat. It encourage people to be lazy. Don't make any effort, just throw your problem out to the group the moment you don't immediately know what to do next.

nottorp 2 days ago

Do you drop everything every time a chat message is posted like it's a life threatening emergency?

M3L0NM4N 2 days ago

This is generally how my team works, but we don't have a hard cap on the time. I just think nobody wants to debate about technical implementations early in the morning.

wjamesg 2 days ago

Nothing from my end, thanks

baxtr 2 days ago

In my world stand-ups are mainly status, blockers and other ops/admin updates.

No functional/topic discussions. If they’re required you schedule those in the standup and decide who participates.

No need to expand beyond 15min in that mode.

SoftTalker 2 days ago

No need for everyone to be in a room together either, to do that.

baxtr 2 days ago

It’s more efficient for us at least.

It reduced the number of back and forth on slack/other tools quite a bit.

exhilaration 2 days ago

The root problem, of course, is that no one stands up at anymore at standups.

shermantanktop 2 days ago

This is my problem, but I’m not great at standing, for reasons, but it’s physically not good. 10m is ok but there’s always some bore who wants to blather on. Or “we’re done, can x and y stay back to discuss z” and then everybody stays for some reason.

vessenes 2 days ago

I’m prone to this, as is many a manager/leader in a standup. I always designated the spiciest admin to run the meeting and keep us on time; you need someone who can cut off the boss or these take forever.

bee_rider 2 days ago

I think they are supposed to be so short you don’t even sit, right?