pests 17 hours ago

Apple has moved these indicators into their “exclaves” removing any control or influence from the OS / software running.

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gruez 16 hours ago

Source? AFAIK they only have hardware indicators for webcams on cams, and it's not used for microphones.

sroussey 15 hours ago

Different person here, but Apple has tried it multiple times in different ways.

They started in ios14, iOS 17 got new Secure Exclave path that (A18, M4).

Search for “Secure Indicator Light”.

Also searching for “Secure Exclave” will reveal some fun reads.

jeffhuys 3 hours ago

That’s cool, but on iPhones, there is no indicator LIGHT. Only part of the screen indicates it. And if they can trigger stuff on your phone, maybe a daemon that accidentally covers that part with black also appears, and you wouldn’t notice.

sroussey 12 minutes ago

Nope, it interfaces directly with the display driver and overwrites anything from user land or the OS.