Balgair 20 days ago

Wait until you guys hear about how they used AI in the California bar exam.

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/controversy-californi...

The lawyer jokes aren't funny anymore...

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BlueTemplar 20 days ago

How ? The issue seems to have been that they had not revealed that LLMs were involved in the creation of the multiple choice questions. The questions/answers themselves seem to have passed the bar ? (no pun intended)

A much worse failure seems to have been the incompetent software to run the tests. And that for something as high level they would have decided to do it through the mediation of a computer as well as used multiple choice questions in the first place.

everybodyknows 20 days ago

> ... response to the widespread disruptions, the Committee of Bar Examiners, or CBE, voted on April 18 to lower the raw passing score for the February exam from 560 to 534, “two standard errors of measurement below ...

Although different states are involved, perhaps this goes some way toward explaining how Lindell's lawyers could have passed their bar exams.

Balgair 20 days ago

I'm not too familiar with his lawyers, but I suspect they passed their exams a long time ago in another state.

Bar exams are funny things. Most states have a reciprocity with the NY bar, so when you think lawyer, think the NY bar.

But California is considered a harder bar to pass and has little reciprocity.

Somewhat surprisingly the hardest bar is Louisiana's. This is because their legal system is a crawdad fucking mess. They inherited their code based system from the French for a lot of local matters, but then also have to deal with the precedent based system the rest of the US uses. So you have to memorize two completely different types of law at a very high level. So, if you ever meet a Louisiana lawyer, you know you've met a very intelligent and dedicated person.

Obligatory IANAL here.

financetechbro 20 days ago

This is a really crazy story