xethos 19 days ago

I at least am contrasting

> [running a relay being cheap and easy] wasn't asserted anywhere

With

> I recall posts of people running their own relays on RPi4s with NVMe drives

I would absolutely consider software I can host at home, on a RPi, cheap and easy to self-host. That's the assertion that's being called out here. Bluesky's relays do not scale down easily, and are difficult and expensive to host

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yellowapple 19 days ago

> I would absolutely consider software I can host at home, on a RPi, cheap and easy to self-host.

That's expensive and difficult compared to running a PDS or appview (either of which can run with a tiny fraction of even an RPi's resources), which is exactly what I said. And to reiterate: an RPi4 with an NVMe SSD is very far off from something that's production-ready and suitable for public use. You can run your own relay, but it's probably not going to handle 30+ million users like Bluesky's relay does, or like Free Our Feeds' "second relay" presumably seeks to do.

haileyok 18 days ago

- A raspberry pi with a nvme drive costs 200 dollars one time. Are you seriously going to assert that is expensive?

- You don’t understand what a relay does in atproto given the rest of your reply and should look.

yellowapple 17 days ago

> A raspberry pi with a nvme drive costs 200 dollars one time. Are you seriously going to assert that is expensive?

Compared to the hardware required to run a PDS, yes, absolutely. "Expensive" is relative.

And like I've said above, a Raspberry Pi with an NVMe drive is surely a long ways off from Bluesky's own relay. It's good enough for personal needs, not for any sort of production use.

> You don’t understand what a relay does in atproto given the rest of your reply and should look.

I'd appreciate specific corrections, so that I (and anyone else reading these comments) can be better-informed.

(EDIT: my apologies for the previous version of this comment, which might've come across a bit hostile. That ain't my intention.)